I have been called by God to lead, to cover, to provide, to protect in ways over Lauren that a boyfriend is not. However, a boyfriend should be leading his girlfriend in regards to godliness, and encouraging her in regards to her giftedness. I think he should be encouraging her in prayerfulness, an encouraging her towards an understanding and growing knowledge of the Word of God. I can get my own preferences mixed up in this, so let me just kind of put a little asterisk here. What Lauren wants from me is for me to ask: Keys to Sexual Purity in Dating? Speaking of sexual purity, what are a couple of practical helps for staying sexually pure in a dating relationship that actually work?
Maybe because I have been married for 15 years, but this question of purity feels like common sense. One of the things I say at The Village, on repeat, is that nothing good has ever come from a boyfriend and girlfriend cuddling on the couch watching a movie from 11pm to 1am. It has never ended in a discussion about cinematography in the history of watching movies on couches. To put yourself in that position to begin with is a foolish one.
What works is being in public, guarding space alone, not putting yourself in situations. I think singles have a tendency to think more highly of their own self-control than they should. So I think dating in groups, or dating in public, is important, and we see that in Scripture. In Song of Solomon you see a growing desire to physically be intimate, and yet she describes their date as being under this canopy of leaves and this rug of grass Song of Solomon 1: They are at a park.
They are in a forest. They are in the public eye, because they have a growing passion to be intimate physically. And so they have positioned themselves publicly so as to not give themselves over to their lusts. When Should a Single Stop Dating? If a man or woman is trying to stop looking at pornography, but seems they cannot many Christian men struggle here , are they ready to date, or not? If not, what is the line between ready and not ready to date for a Christian porn addict?
So this is an extremely complex question that is hard to answer outside of actually knowing the people involved. My knee-jerk reaction is: No, you are not ready. Where is mortification happening? Where is vivication happening? Are we saying that this guy, or this girl, stumbles once a year, or a couple of times a month? And where are we in relation to frequency, healing, victory? I think all of those questions would come into play on whether or not I would encourage someone to be in a relationship while they wrestled.
And so without kind of that information, it becomes hard to just lay down an answer. The truth is every one of us are coming into our relationships with the opposite sex needing further sanctification, needing growth, needing our identity in Christ, and needing to have parts of our flesh mortified. Are there any other circumstances in which you, as a pastor, would tell someone that they have no business pursuing a dating relationship? When I am telling someone or leveraging my relationship with someone in regards to dating or not dating, I am always doing that within the covenant of me being their pastor and them being a covenant member of the church.
From the beginning, our relationship is not just one where I have a cursory view of their life, but also one where I know where they are. I have often times recommended someone hold off dating until the season that they were in with the Lord has changed. I told a young man last year that, because of where he was in his relationship with the Lord, he should hold off pursuing a girlfriend until he had given himself back over to growing in his relationship with the Lord.
Guys were pursuing him and he was avoiding them. He had a relational conflict with some guys, and he was refusing to connect with them and reconcile. I recommended to him that this would be a really foolish time to date, and it would end in heartbreak, either his heart or the heart of some poor girl at our church. Large numbers of men and women in the Church represent this population. How does Jesus Christ help the unique struggles that those Christians face in a dating relationship and as they look forward to marriage?
The home I grew up in was wrought with just about every type of abuse imaginable. And it does leave some marks, and it creates some baggage, not only for dating but then into the marriage that will need to be gospel-ed. For the one that has not endured abuse, but is free from that type of baggage, the gospel should create patience, compassion, and empathy to walk alongside of the person who has bore the brunt of this abuse. So any advice to make that easier is always appreciated! Shannon, I appreciate your perspective here.
Perhaps you are the type of woman who wants some dialog with a man before he asks you out. I think it is important to point out that not all women are like this. I think this is why grace is so important and we have to be careful not to assume. You may not like a man immediately asking you out; but, some women love it.
A guy may have learned from past experience how effective a direct approach can be! But just be aware of the fact that both secular and Christian culture heavily discourage and shame Christian girls and women from being blunt and direct with people, especially with men. Christians place ten times more pressure on girls and women to behave in this manner than secular culture does.
We women are told if we are too direct and blunt, that it is mean spirited and un-feminine. The House of God is for Prayer and Worship…it is not a bar or any other type of pick up place. One Night With the King http: I am a woman and I totally disagree with Ms. If you look at the NT, Paul used various churches to take up monetary collections to help other churches that were in poverty.
I do think that churches should be willing to help single adults who would like to marry some help in that area, if they want the help. Most churches run around helping married couples by putting on so many ministries and social events for married people, they should be willing to do that sort of thing for single adults. I agree in part and disagree with the other premise. Read the book of Ruth.
What I mean by church is the church generally. Not so much Sunday. God may well put someone in front of you, but you still have to act. No biblical character ever met their spouses inside the Temple of God…God directs them to each other by his Holy Spirit in other places. Again, I need a job. Should I look for a job or just hope that God will bring me one?
We know God the Father as much as we know and obey His Word. We can tell where a person is in the Lord by their understanding of the Word of God! Babes will dwell on the milk and they see only what is directly in front of them. They lack wisdom, discernment and spiritual understanding…this is evident as soon as they open their mouths to speak. But we all grow at different paces…we grow in accordance with how much of the Word of God we eat on a daily basis.
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Every person is as close to God right now as they desire to be. No one here has ever thought that if they seek God first, all the things will be added. Give me a break. Again, there is no where in the Bible that God promises that I will have a spouse. You have no scriptural backing for that idea. All you are doing is spreading the same spiritual platitudes that keep people complacent and mad at God. Yes you should always seek God first. But not so anything is added — you do it whether anything will be added or not — for HIm and Him alone.
He is what fulfills us. He is what we seek.
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Your judgement is false because you start from a seat of judgement instead of understanding. Your way is not working as evidenced by the gigantic leap in unmarried people over the last 40 years. I have no idea what you said, none of it is in reference to what I just wrote, as previously stated… speaking from a place of anger and insecurity that has nothing to do with what I just said…insecurity and immaturity! I do get fired up at spiritual platitudes which is exactly what you are offering. If you wanted to argue that we should seek God and not worry about whether or not we get married, that is a fair argument.
But to say that if we seek God we will get married is not. No where has anyone judged your spiritual maturity or place with Jesus. They are disagreeing with what you say about how finding a spouse works. You are the one making it personal. Not only that, but men better have the best resume and professional references possible in order to even show up on her radar as a possible candidate. This, of course, is ignoring the fact that most women in churches now who act more like HR departments than sisters-in-Christ are totally unprepared and unqualified to be good wives and mothers.
You, my sister, seem to be over-spiritualizing life in the 21st century. In no way does it guarantee a loving, respectful, submissive, Christian wife who wants to please God by honoring me as her husband. Those are two totally different things. By your logic, God wants all people to be well fed, and so living in his will automatically means that we will never go hungry.
How well is that logic working for some of the poorer Christians in poor parts of Africa or Afghanistan? Or even poor parts of the US? This is the problem with Western Theology: We never consider that God would bless their marriage selections because God believes in the union and covenant of godly marriages no matter which wives they chose. Being holy without also being a good-looking, charismatic, top-status man is absolutely useless for finding a wife.
Been there and done that. So have many other godly men who followed advice like yours. If you want single men and women to become married, then stop spitting out religious sounding platitudes, and become very honest and real about the ways we each men and women need to change practically to live biblical 21st century life well ie: Reply to Justin Campbell, regarding some of your comments to the lady on this thread who is saying church is a place of prayer, not a dating site, etc.
I am pretty much on your side in this debate, but I do want to add — as someone who was a devout Christian for many years, wanted to be married, am still single past age 45 — neither strategy guarantees marriage. Trying did not work — stepping out in faith and putting action to faith did not work, either. There are a lot of Christian singles who wanted to be married but it did not happen for them — God is not providing for them, regardless if the person is passive sat around and prayed or active about trying to get married tried going to singles functions at churches or tried dating sites.
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But I will share one or two. Which means, a lot of single adults will end up possibly going to seedy, immoral bars and night clubs. And from there, they might possibly be enticed into getting drunk and engaging in one night stands. If you believe that Christians should marry only other Christians, does it not make more sense that you as a Christian facilitate Christian-on-Christian marriages? Do you want to risk a Christian going out and looking for love at a local bar and end up getting married to an atheist? If you want more Christian marriages, I am always reading about Christians having conniption fits because Christian marriage rates are down , would it not make more sense for your church to help Christian singles get married to Christian singles?
I appreciate you being bold enough to say it. For sure we all need to be called out, and we all need to be shown grace. Your approach seems good to me. The big thing is to actually meet the girl. To me you want to be confident and be yourself and meet them. Then maybe the second or third time you might ask for some contact info — if it seems right. At the very least it helps to have people in your life that you trust that know what you are doing and can speak into it. That helps with all things, including dating. One thing I do want to add in here and get to the root of the discussion that Ms.
She wrote the following…. However we as believers need to remember that the church is us, the body of believers worshipping Christ. We also go to fellowship with like minded believers. We go for the corporate worship but to fellowship, have accountability with, and enjoy wonderful friendships with brothers and sisters in Christ. Essentially what happens in the church is an example of what will happen in heaven! Anyway, if someone is going to church most likely a non believer or young babe in Christ in order TO pickup a lady, then that is the wrong.
Because their heart is in the wrong place, which has happened to all of us in different ways at some points in our walk. Obviously no mature believer is going to hit on a lady during worship service, Sunday school class, bible study, etc. If a guy did, that gal should get red flags and run far far away!
Getting to know a lady who loves the Lord where both individuals are amongst other married believers in fact is a very God honoring way to meet and marry. Doing so within the body of believers that make up the church allows for accountability between a man and woman. It also allows for biblical guidance and counsel from other married believers who can help guide these two young individuals to a solid Christ centered marriage where God sanctifies them both through that marriage.
Sahiyena — I may be mistaken from your post, but when I read it, it came across as believers are only to show up to church for prayer and worship singing hymns, reading of scripture and then go home. Sometimes she would sit next to me in church. Small talk after church. We both came through a very dark, and sad period in our lives ….. In a bigger church I am sure it is hard enough, but most Americans who attend church go to ones under people. What was I to do? I had to surrender further to Christ and finally accept that I was going to be a lifelong bachelor.
I did it before I would get so bitter and jaded IN church or regretful of a decision to follow Christ, which I could not the devil win on. Christ wants a joyful servant. I have to say, since I made this choice in June. Life has been easier and I have been feeling a lot better.
A lot of this problem today Justin honestly is that our pastors, many lay leaders, deacons or what-have-you are in uncharted waters themselves. My Officer has been married since You have a VERY large segment of the never married, the single-mom, and divorced now strolling in, expecting answers…. The singles in church today are going have to a a lot of the footwork themselves. They are just going to have to do it. She has a Master of Science in applied developmental psychology from the University of Pittsburgh's School of Education.
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